Wikipedia's Cebuano Grammar

ElijahCFGolpe's picture

Ayo ninyong tanan!

Ako si Elijah. I am not fluent in Cebuano nor Binisaya. I was born in Cebu City, but I moved to America when I was 6. I'm 18 now. I have been trying my best to learn the language this year. I'm very into languages and linguistics. I can speak French and Spanish at a B1 level and a lot of other languages at lower levels, but I digress lol

Anyway, I have looked at Wikipedia's Cebuano Grammar Page and studied a lot from it. I also looked through the sources at the bottom of the page and ADDED to the page FROM these sources.

It's sad to see a language spoken by millions of people have so little accessible resources and such an obscure grammar that its people barely know themselves. They seem to care so much about just being understood rather than knowin why they say it the way they do. I'm not here to criticize my fellow Bisaya people, I'm actually here to try and encourage you all to try and understand the grammar and what you say! <3

I'd love to create a grammar book and AN APP for Cebuano/Binisaya. For now, I ask that you guys check Wikipedia's Cebuano Grammar Page and tell me if there are any mistakes in it or things that you would change or you don't understand, etc. I want to learn and ALSO teach! This is something I'm passionate about because it's my heritage language and I'm sure you're all passionate about it as well! I just ask for help and encouragement with this Wikipedia Page and to understanding Cebuano Grammar. The wikipedia page is NOT finished and there are many things that need to be added.

Something I very much believe in is Austronesian Alignment. I believe that Cebuano/Binisaya has Austronesian Alignment. Please check that out as well.

Daghan salamat ninyong tanan!

ElijahCFGolpe's picture

Don't think that's fair

This was meant for @ Just4Kixs

Yes, it's true that Wikipedia isn't entirely trustworthy, but it's one of the first things to pop up for people who search the language. If someone makes too many edits anonymously, etc. there are moderators on Wikipedia that will overrule the big edits, especially if copy and pasting is happening. Tiny edits are tough though because they're harder for moderators to keep track of. Although this is all true, Wikipedia is a great beginners' resource. The people who do monitor it today are genuinely trying to keep it as correct as possible, with as little effort as possible (because they have busy lives of course).

Sure, a lot of the links aren't backed by scholarly evidence, yet there's rarely any true "scholarly" evidence on the Cebuano language anyway. I don't think it's fair to say to someone their Cebuano knowledge is wrong or right, when there's no true standardized grammar or whatnot yet. Nominative vs Ergative vs Whatever, at the end of the day, what sounds right in the language is what matters.

I'm kinda glad it has been heavily edited over the 7 years, Way back when, there was barely anything on it that really spoke grammar, it was mostly just vocab. To see all the sources on the bottom of the page be added onto the actual Wikipedia Page was great, because people don't even know about those sources on the bottom.

I understand your concern, but there's too much stigmatization with Wikipedia and it's saddening because people are just trying to make Cebuano more accessible and well-known.
Thank you for commenting though!